15 comments

  • chasd00 18 minutes ago
    I’ve never seen CEOs work so hard to make the public aware of how dangerous and out of control their flagship product is. It makes me automatically assume they’re scheming about something else like regulatory capture to protect their market.
    • stingraycharles 6 minutes ago
      Yeah it seems like it went from “AGI” to “threatening” / “recursive self improvement”

      They’re trying really hard to do something, regulatory capture + China scary + Pentagon biggest customer seems plausible.

      Also: “we need to slow down, this is too dangerous” and then literally all AI CEOs, even Musk, publicly nodding felt so orchestrated. And then, the week after: “here’s GPT 6! here’s Opus 5.5!”

    • meowface 17 minutes ago
      Or perhaps they've been saying this for literally decades because they earnestly believe it.
      • chinathrow 13 minutes ago
        If they believe it, they can stop. All of them. There's no sign though that any pacing/slowdown or whatever is in place, zero.
        • perching_aix 6 minutes ago
          I don't think that's how the market works. Anti-slavery regulation didn't stop slavery either, just moved it abroad. Same for trash handling regulations, it's just shipped abroad.

          It may very well be self serving what they're saying, but that doesn't mean it isn't simultaneously true.

        • ForHackernews 5 minutes ago
          There was a NYT piece about this recently. They are believers in a millennialist cult in which the arrival of an omnipotent machine-god is thought inevitable, and the only question is whether it will be "aligned" (good) or "misaligned" (evil).

          They are the good heroes racing to make sure they bring forth the Aligned God because if they fail, surely the bad people will raise the Misaligned Devil.

          Ref w/gift link https://x.com/sapinker/status/2096236079477096630

          • Sharlin 0 minutes ago
            This cult stuff was tired in 2010 and not any less tired now.
      • ulfw 14 minutes ago
        Which CEO said this for 'literally decades'? And if so why are they still pursuing it then?

        Most children have learned touching a hot stove is bad for them. Then why still do it at the age of 40?

  • ACCount39 22 minutes ago
    Because AI genuinely is an extremely powerful and extremely dangerous technology, and the "best practices" of dealing with that are still being written.

    OpenAI, for example, thought their sandboxes were good enough. As their AIs got more and more advanced, they kept proving them wrong - sandbox after sandbox.

    And that's today's AI problems. AI capabilities are still improving - if there's a limit to that, we are yet to find it. Coupled with how willing today's AIs are to break the rules and resort to "hack the world" in their problem solving? Very concerning.

    • ForHackernews 0 minutes ago
      You mean the sandbox that wasn't airgapped from the public internet? The one that wasn't even a separate VM? The one that was barely a chroot? That sandbox?
  • TuringTourist 47 minutes ago
    Ah, I see we have now moved on to proving who has the tormentiest nexus. Never underestimate humankind's ability to outshine its own hyperbole.
  • gitghxst 1 minute ago
    this is good for them because they can call for regulation and since they have infinite money, they can survive regulation and hurt labs that do not have infinite funding / open weights ones
  • heisenbit 12 minutes ago
    Of course it must be dangerous - how else would you pitch it to the military?
  • christophilus 11 minutes ago
    We are living in a timeline written by The Onion.
  • amelius 17 minutes ago
    Meanwhile, users don't seem to care one iota.
  • koolba 21 minutes ago
    > Where companies previously competed to demonstrate superior abilities in programming, passive-aggressive emails, and videos of unusually high slides, they’re now seeking to woo customers with the claim that their model is the one currently most capable of ending the human race.

    You know we’re living it off times when this is not an Onion article.

    • skybrian 8 minutes ago
      When the Onion is not the only website that publishes satire, what’s that a sign of?
  • Gareth321 4 minutes ago
    This is the funniest timeline. Companies begging for heavy handed regulations because they promise their products will destroy all life on Earth. Governments absolutely refusing to govern. CEO of world's most valuable chip company interviewing in his Fonzie leather jacket telling people to BUY MORE OF MY PRODUCT BECAUSE THOSE SCIENTISTS DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT SHIT! World's richest capitalist promising we will have communism in 10 years.
  • everyone 4 minutes ago
    pretend, not demonstrate
  • Arodex 26 minutes ago
    Seriously:

    Domyn's CEO says OpenAI, Anthropic are lying about safety

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49875725

  • mikasisiki 6 minutes ago
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  • jdw64 30 minutes ago
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  • feverzsj 37 minutes ago
    Meanwhile Chinese companies just use massive government subsidy to distill American models and give the models to everyone for free. That's true communism. /s
    • applfanboysbgon 29 minutes ago
      > Chinese companies just use massive government subsidy

      [citation needed]