12 comments

  • VCFundedGenYer 10 minutes ago
    I want the disk space taken from the models back.

    I will never touch this garbage and would rather use the disk space I purchased to be used for my purposes, not the industry's pointless fad bubble endeavors.

  • zzyzxd 1 minute ago
    I would never have figured out the toggle for writing tools is in `Settings -> Screen Time -> Content & Privacy Restrictions -> Siri -> Writing Assistance`
  • pdpi 30 minutes ago
    Clearly, nobody at Apple is thinking globally about this stuff.

    If you have kids, "Screen Time" is a reasonable enough name for the place where parental controls live.

    If you work under the assumption that AI features are OK in general, but potentially problematic around kids in particular, parental controls are a reasonable enough place to put these AI controls.

    If you're not a parent, and have broader concerns about AI, you'd never even think of looking for these options where they are.

  • k310 1 hour ago
    This applies to MacOS 26.

    On iOS 27, it looks like changing the settings for eight different apps taking 5 or 6 steps each.

    https://archive.ph/AE72I#selection-712.0-731.53

    Original: https://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-turn-off-apple-intelligenc...

  • strictnein 48 minutes ago
    The thing that's weird about Apple's "Intelligence" features is how dumb they are. I messaged one of my kids yesterday that the pizza I made was ready and that I was out in the backyard with our dogs. Genmoji (or whatever it's called) then decided to suggest that I make a new Emoji with pizzas in a yard.

    It's great that they're on device and all, but how incredibly stupid.

    • coldpie 31 minutes ago
      Many bothans died to bring you that suggestion to make a new emoji of pizzas in a yard.
    • doc_ick 38 minutes ago
      Still better then Microsoft.
  • todfox 0 minutes ago
    The Write with Siri button that shows up whenever I select text is so obnoxious that I want to trash this fucking machine after 30+ years on the platform.
  • parable 37 minutes ago
    Is it possible to block Apple Intelligence from sending data over the Internet via Little Snitch? I would assume it is, but I'm not sure if anything significant has changed in macOS 27 that makes this impossible now. I don't really mind the local features - I'd rather they stay disabled, but it's not the end of the world - but I really don't want any data leaving my Mac.
    • reaperducer 13 minutes ago
      Is it possible to block Apple Intelligence from sending data over the Internet via Little Snitch?

      Short answer: Maybe, but I've never tried it.

      Little Snitch is aware of various system-level network connections, but I don't know if they're granular enough to block the AI only.

    • ActorNightly 35 minutes ago
      Apple OS will bypass any user space firewall.

      You can verify this yourself. Get an old laptop to act as a wifi hotspot and forward traffic over usb ethernet adapter to your actual router. Then run tcpdump on the computer. You will see the multitude of phone-home traffic.

      • throwaway27448 2 minutes ago
        Is there evidence of this anywhere on the internet? I couldn't find anything with ten minutes of searching, and I don't use little snitch, and I'm not going to put the effort in to remediate this just to figure out if this comment has weight.
      • arcanemachiner 17 minutes ago
        Non-macOS user here. Does macOS not let you run things as root?
        • nhubbard 12 minutes ago
          It does let you run things as root.
          • VCFundedGenYer 9 minutes ago
            Not exactly.

            What is "root" in macOS is more or less a power user role. Apple took away the true ability to operate as root a long time ago with System Integrity Protection which walls off the critical parts of the OS from the user entirely.

            Unfortunately, SIP also restricts basic system functions that are trivial in other OSes. Apple made this very difficult, and MS would have loved to do this in Vista had they not received the backlash that they did.

            • frizlab 4 minutes ago
              You can disable SIP if you want. You can run whatever you want on your machine. Disabling SIP is indeed a security risk… then again, so is running something as root. Having a Mac w/o SIP is no more a security risk than having a Linux w/o a r/o kernel AFAIK.
  • reaperducer 15 minutes ago
    Missing from Apple's list is the feature that suggest filenames.

    At first, it was very cool and did a good job with plain text files, and even a PDF. Then it munged the names of several hundred files I was working with that was each named with a street address.

    Finder → Settings → Suggest file names

  • JumpCrisscross 31 minutes ago
    Why did they nerf the keyboard interface to Siri?

    Before, it was ⌘⌘ and you could type out something for Siri to fuck up. Now, we have to turn off “Hey Siri” and then click on the Siri app or meander our way through Spotlight.

    I talk to my phone. I type to my laptop.

    • petu 19 minutes ago
      > meander our way through Spotlight

      By that you mean that just typing prompt into Spotlight doesn't work reliably? For me after few words "Ask Siri" is first result.

    • wat10000 25 minutes ago
      Cmd-space, type, done.
      • lynndotpy 14 minutes ago
        I'm not sure what configuration you have, but this does not send requests to Siri a-la the "cmd-cmd <type to siri>" flow.
  • bflesch 51 minutes ago
    Funny how Apple has reached the crapware maturity level that Microsoft users are quite familiar with: After first boot, go through a long list of things to deactivate so that one can experience at least some feeling of agency and privacy when using your own hardware.
    • throwaway27448 1 minute ago
      Comparing apple intelligence to a service that records your screen without consent feels extremely disingenuous.
    • throw0101c 23 minutes ago
      > After first boot, go through a long list of things to deactivate so that one can experience at least some feeling of agency and privacy when using your own hardware.

      The difference is that you can actually not set these things up: with Windows you often have to choice. Macs allow you to not have an iCloud account and run just fine without them, whereas to avoid a Microsoft cloud account there are magic CLI incantations that have to be invoked. And once you say "no", Apple generally leaves you alone.

      I don't mind a bit of 'upsell' or informing (new) users of available offerings, as long as I get a choice.

      • moose333 16 minutes ago
        > Macs allow you to not have an iCloud account and run just fine without them

        Until you need to install an app through the App store. Even a free app will refuse to install without an iCloud account. Frustrating when you want something with a verified source, for me it was Wireguard, and don't want to build it locally.

        • reaperducer 11 minutes ago
          That's on Wireguard.

          If they can apt get on Ubuntu, they can likely brew install on macOS.

      • butlike 11 minutes ago
        The issue with iCloud is that before you even know it, you're paying $9.99/mo. Since 200gb is quite low, the next tier up is 2tb for $9.99, but then you're essentially locked in. I can't view the iCloud price tiers as anything other than predatory.
    • ASalazarMX 37 minutes ago
      I'd expect turning off Siri as a whole, which is very easy, would be enough. The list is for people who still want to use Siri after it became a OS-level LLM, I mean, Apple Intelligence.
    • ryandrake 35 minutes ago
      It's the "agency" bit that really annoys me. The Computer is no longer Personal. I expect my personal computer to only do things that I choose to invoke. It should not do a laundry list of things that the device manufacturer wants it to do, nor a laundry list of things the OS vendor wants it to do. I shouldn't have to turn things off. They shouldn't be on to begin with, unless I deliberately turned them on.

      Of course this doesn't extend to obvious things like "running the kernel" and "initializing the filesystem." But in general I want to be the person responsible for running things, not some product manager 3,000 miles away in Silicon Valley.

      • arcanemachiner 15 minutes ago
        > The Computer is no longer Personal. I expect my personal computer to only do things that I choose to invoke.

        The internet and its consequences have been a disaster for the personal computer user.

  • Mindwipe 27 minutes ago
    It's really frustrating that there is no ability to reclaim the drive space in MacOS 27, especially on Macbooks with M1 or M2 chips that can barely use the models. Another great sign of how the OS is deeply on fire IMO.
  • iAMkenough 1 hour ago
    Note that storage space taken up by local models is not reclaimed and remains dormant on your Mac until you're nearly out of space.
    • rgovostes 14 minutes ago
      Philosophically, what is the difference between empty space and space that will be reclaimed when you need it?

      The storage medium tracks whether a cell or sector is overwritable. The filesystem tracks whether a block is allocated. And the OS tracks whether a cache is evictable.

      At what layer do you consider the space “claimed”?

      • kccqzy 1 minute ago
        [delayed]
      • paper2d 4 minutes ago
        Realistically, the 'claim space' service needs to run when the OS 'thinks' it has run out of space to reclaim it. And there can be M amount of waiting time for this and N number of issues that may arrive with it.
    • totetsu 1 hour ago
      They cant take up that free space if it was already full in the first place..